Check the CRUMB mailing list for an unfolding thread in respond to ICA Director's Ekow Eshun's explanatory comment for the closure of ICA's Live and Media Arts Department, stating that, "New media based arts practice continues to have its place within the arts sector. However it's my consideration that, in the main, the art form lacks the depth and cultural urgency to justify the ICA's continued and significant investment in a Live & Media Arts department." On the list, initial discussion surrounding Eshun's position on new media and live arts practice has launched a larger conversation about the placement of new media art in mainstream art institutions and the problematic encroachment of market and commercial interests within these spaces.