This piece is tremendous!
The description-

<…stylistically ascribed
to the young British
design-school, ….Navigation on the
internet his subject…
…..counters them in an ironical way ….>

made me fear the worst.
The work is great, like a sort of multimedia Ben
Marcus.
Wonderful stuff!
Michael



— "jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net"
<jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net> wrote:
> Lee Marvin Toolbox
> by
> Jorn Ebner
>
> is now available in English translation - at
> www.leemarvintoolbox.net
>
> Lee Marvin Toolbox was awarded the Kunstpreis 2001
> of Medienforum Munchen.
>
> The jury - Monika Fleischmann (GMD, St.
> Augustin/Bonn), Gerfried Stocker
> (Ars Electronica Center Linz), Tjark Ihmels (award
> holder 2000) as well KP
> Ludwig John and Ulrich Muller (both Medienforum
> Munchen) - decided
> unanimously for the project LEE MARVIN TOOLBOX of
> London based artist Jorn
> Ebner.
>
> Lee Marvin Toolbox is a filigree and elliptical work
> for the internet. With
> Flash animations which can be stylistically ascribed
> to the young British
> design-school, Jorn Ebner makes Navigation on the
> internet his subject
> matter and counters them in an ironical way with the
> famous cowboy song, "I
> was born under a wanderin star".
>
> The work is best viewed with Internet Explorer 5.x
> and higher, and requires
> a Flash5Player Plugin.
>
>
> for further information contact:
> www.medienforum.org
> info@medienforum.org
> jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net
>
>
>
>


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i couldn't get the mac download to work…. did anyone get this going?


On 7/3/02 5:32 PM, "Michael Szpakowski" <szpako@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This piece is tremendous!
> The description-
>
> <…stylistically ascribed
> to the young British
> design-school, ….Navigation on the
> internet his subject…
> …..counters them in an ironical way ….>
>
> made me fear the worst.
> The work is great, like a sort of multimedia Ben
> Marcus.
> Wonderful stuff!
> Michael
>
>
>
> — "jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net"
> <jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net> wrote:
>> Lee Marvin Toolbox
>> by
>> Jorn Ebner
>>
>> is now available in English translation - at
>> www.leemarvintoolbox.net
>>
>> Lee Marvin Toolbox was awarded the Kunstpreis 2001
>> of Medienforum M?nchen.
>>
>> The jury - Monika Fleischmann (GMD, St.
>> Augustin/Bonn), Gerfried Stocker
>> (Ars Electronica Center Linz), Tjark Ihmels (award
>> holder 2000) as well KP
>> Ludwig John and Ulrich M?ller (both Medienforum
>> M?nchen) - decided
>> unanimously for the project LEE MARVIN TOOLBOX of
>> London based artist Jorn
>> Ebner.
>>
>> Lee Marvin Toolbox is a filigree and elliptical work
>> for the internet. With
>> Flash animations which can be stylistically ascribed
>> to the young British
>> design-school, Jorn Ebner makes Navigation on the
>> internet his subject
>> matter and counters them in an ironical way with the
>> famous cowboy song, "I
>> was born under a wanderin star".
>>
>> The work is best viewed with Internet Explorer 5.x
>> and higher, and requires
>> a Flash5Player Plugin.
>>
>>
>> for further information contact:
>> www.medienforum.org
>> info@medienforum.org
>> jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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I couldn't get it to work on pc - I thought that it was an ironic piece so I
laughed very quietly…

marc

> i couldn't get the mac download to work…. did anyone get this going?
>
>
> On 7/3/02 5:32 PM, "Michael Szpakowski" <szpako@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This piece is tremendous!
> > The description-
> >
> > <…stylistically ascribed
> > to the young British
> > design-school, ….Navigation on the
> > internet his subject…
> > …..counters them in an ironical way ….>
> >
> > made me fear the worst.
> > The work is great, like a sort of multimedia Ben
> > Marcus.
> > Wonderful stuff!
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > — "jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net"
> > <jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net> wrote:
> >> Lee Marvin Toolbox
> >> by
> >> Jorn Ebner
> >>
> >> is now available in English translation - at
> >> www.leemarvintoolbox.net
> >>
> >> Lee Marvin Toolbox was awarded the Kunstpreis 2001
> >> of Medienforum M?nchen.
> >>
> >> The jury - Monika Fleischmann (GMD, St.
> >> Augustin/Bonn), Gerfried Stocker
> >> (Ars Electronica Center Linz), Tjark Ihmels (award
> >> holder 2000) as well KP
> >> Ludwig John and Ulrich M?ller (both Medienforum
> >> M?nchen) - decided
> >> unanimously for the project LEE MARVIN TOOLBOX of
> >> London based artist Jorn
> >> Ebner.
> >>
> >> Lee Marvin Toolbox is a filigree and elliptical work
> >> for the internet. With
> >> Flash animations which can be stylistically ascribed
> >> to the young British
> >> design-school, Jorn Ebner makes Navigation on the
> >> internet his subject
> >> matter and counters them in an ironical way with the
> >> famous cowboy song, "I
> >> was born under a wanderin star".
> >>
> >> The work is best viewed with Internet Explorer 5.x
> >> and higher, and requires
> >> a Flash5Player Plugin.
> >>
> >>
> >> for further information contact:
> >> www.medienforum.org
> >> info@medienforum.org
> >> jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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It's great -worth persisting with, even to the extent
of going to somebody else's place, comandeering their
computer and watching it there.
So frustrating when you've worked hard on a piece
,done all the right things and it doesn't run for some
deeply arcane reason on some particular machine.
But the piece itself- hard to say why it's great but
there's something deeply touching about it. The use of
the Lee Marvin thing is not just tedious chummy
postmodern club irony but transcends it completely.
And there's something about the way the various
windows pop up against the background of the cheesy
and yet rather beautiful song that again I have to say
is *moving*. So hard often to say exactly why one
thing feels like authentic art and another phony but
this piece definitely does it for me. They were right
to give it a prize.
persist!
best
michael
— furtherfield <info@furtherfield.org> wrote:
> I couldn't get it to work on pc - I thought that it
> was an ironic piece so I
> laughed very quietly…
>
> marc
>
> > i couldn't get the mac download to work…. did
> anyone get this going?
> >
> >
> > On 7/3/02 5:32 PM, "Michael Szpakowski"
> <szpako@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This piece is tremendous!
> > > The description-
> > >
> > > <…stylistically ascribed
> > > to the young British
> > > design-school, ….Navigation on the
> > > internet his subject…
> > > …..counters them in an ironical way ….>
> > >
> > > made me fear the worst.
> > > The work is great, like a sort of multimedia Ben
> > > Marcus.
> > > Wonderful stuff!
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > — "jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net"
> > > <jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net> wrote:
> > >> Lee Marvin Toolbox
> > >> by
> > >> Jorn Ebner
> > >>
> > >> is now available in English translation - at
> > >> www.leemarvintoolbox.net
> > >>
> > >> Lee Marvin Toolbox was awarded the Kunstpreis
> 2001
> > >> of Medienforum M?nchen.
> > >>
> > >> The jury - Monika Fleischmann (GMD, St.
> > >> Augustin/Bonn), Gerfried Stocker
> > >> (Ars Electronica Center Linz), Tjark Ihmels
> (award
> > >> holder 2000) as well KP
> > >> Ludwig John and Ulrich M?ller (both Medienforum
> > >> M?nchen) - decided
> > >> unanimously for the project LEE MARVIN TOOLBOX
> of
> > >> London based artist Jorn
> > >> Ebner.
> > >>
> > >> Lee Marvin Toolbox is a filigree and elliptical
> work
> > >> for the internet. With
> > >> Flash animations which can be stylistically
> ascribed
> > >> to the young British
> > >> design-school, Jorn Ebner makes Navigation on
> the
> > >> internet his subject
> > >> matter and counters them in an ironical way
> with the
> > >> famous cowboy song, "I
> > >> was born under a wanderin star".
> > >>
> > >> The work is best viewed with Internet Explorer
> 5.x
> > >> and higher, and requires
> > >> a Flash5Player Plugin.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> for further information contact:
> > >> www.medienforum.org
> > >> info@medienforum.org
> > >> jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Will try again - got nothing against irony or satire at all. Some of the
most effective art/music is ironic and still possesses soul…

marc



> It's great -worth persisting with, even to the extent
> of going to somebody else's place, comandeering their
> computer and watching it there.
> So frustrating when you've worked hard on a piece
> ,done all the right things and it doesn't run for some
> deeply arcane reason on some particular machine.
> But the piece itself- hard to say why it's great but
> there's something deeply touching about it. The use of
> the Lee Marvin thing is not just tedious chummy
> postmodern club irony but transcends it completely.
> And there's something about the way the various
> windows pop up against the background of the cheesy
> and yet rather beautiful song that again I have to say
> is *moving*. So hard often to say exactly why one
> thing feels like authentic art and another phony but
> this piece definitely does it for me. They were right
> to give it a prize.
> persist!
> best
> michael
> — furtherfield <info@furtherfield.org> wrote:
> > I couldn't get it to work on pc - I thought that it
> > was an ironic piece so I
> > laughed very quietly…
> >
> > marc
> >
> > > i couldn't get the mac download to work…. did
> > anyone get this going?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/3/02 5:32 PM, "Michael Szpakowski"
> > <szpako@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This piece is tremendous!
> > > > The description-
> > > >
> > > > <…stylistically ascribed
> > > > to the young British
> > > > design-school, ….Navigation on the
> > > > internet his subject…
> > > > …..counters them in an ironical way ….>
> > > >
> > > > made me fear the worst.
> > > > The work is great, like a sort of multimedia Ben
> > > > Marcus.
> > > > Wonderful stuff!
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > — "jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net"
> > > > <jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net> wrote:
> > > >> Lee Marvin Toolbox
> > > >> by
> > > >> Jorn Ebner
> > > >>
> > > >> is now available in English translation - at
> > > >> www.leemarvintoolbox.net
> > > >>
> > > >> Lee Marvin Toolbox was awarded the Kunstpreis
> > 2001
> > > >> of Medienforum M?nchen.
> > > >>
> > > >> The jury - Monika Fleischmann (GMD, St.
> > > >> Augustin/Bonn), Gerfried Stocker
> > > >> (Ars Electronica Center Linz), Tjark Ihmels
> > (award
> > > >> holder 2000) as well KP
> > > >> Ludwig John and Ulrich M?ller (both Medienforum
> > > >> M?nchen) - decided
> > > >> unanimously for the project LEE MARVIN TOOLBOX
> > of
> > > >> London based artist Jorn
> > > >> Ebner.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lee Marvin Toolbox is a filigree and elliptical
> > work
> > > >> for the internet. With
> > > >> Flash animations which can be stylistically
> > ascribed
> > > >> to the young British
> > > >> design-school, Jorn Ebner makes Navigation on
> > the
> > > >> internet his subject
> > > >> matter and counters them in an ironical way
> > with the
> > > >> famous cowboy song, "I
> > > >> was born under a wanderin star".
> > > >>
> > > >> The work is best viewed with Internet Explorer
> > 5.x
> > > >> and higher, and requires
> > > >> a Flash5Player Plugin.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> for further information contact:
> > > >> www.medienforum.org
> > > >> info@medienforum.org
> > > >> jorn.ebner@britishlibrary.net
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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