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RHIZOME DIGEST: 12.21.03

RHIZOME DIGEST: December 21, 2003 Content: +announcement+ 1. Rob Myers: CC Sampling License 2. Noemata: Welcome to Ars Publica - net.art commerce on the net! 3. Abanze: banyan project - a traveling festival +opportunity+ 4. Michael Brodsky: Assistant Professor of Multimedia Arts - Tenure Track Position 5. Rachel Greene: Rhizome Seeks Intern to Work on International, Scholarly Outreach Program 6. Chris: Tenure Track New Media Arts Position 7. Soren Pold: Call for Papers: READ_ME 2004 +feature+ 8. Francis Hwang, Ana Boa-Ventura, Matthew Mascotte, Gita Hashemi, Rob Myers, Pall Thayer, Michael Szpakowski, Patrick Simons, Rachel Greene: commissions voting process + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + **RHIZOME NEEDS TO RAISE $27K BY FEBRUARY 1, 2004** Do you value Rhizome Digest? If so, consider making a contribution and helping Rhizome.org to be self-sustaining. 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Date: 12.16.03 From: Rob Myers (robmyers@mac.com) Subject: CC Sampling License Creative Commons sampling license announcement (7MB, sit through the preamble…): <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/reticulum_rex/">http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/reticulum_rex/</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/3934">http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/3934</a> - Rob. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 2. Date: 12.19.03 From: Noemata (noemata@kunst.no) Subject: Welcome to Ars Publica - net.art commerce on the net! Ars Publica Welcome to Ars Publica - Net.art commerce on the net! <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.arspublica.com/">http://www.arspublica.com/</a> Ars Publica is a digital art publisher and agency established for providing and funding new media art, activities and resources in affiliation with the art server Noemata.net. Noemata.net is a non-profit, open content art server working with net.art, digital art since 1996, supported 2002-3 by the Norwegian Council of Cultural Affairs - Art and New Technology, hosted by Artnet Norway. On a yearly basis Noemata serves estimably 2 mill. pages, 20 gigabytes, and 170,000 visitors. All published material from Noemata is covered by the Open Content Licence (OCL) which in practice means it can be copied, modified and distributed freely. In an effort to fuse copylefted digital art and art commerce Ars Publica is offering shares of Noemata to people and institutions interested in sponsoring the art server. Shares can be browsed and purchased from the catalogue, establishing ownership in Noemata. The art will usually be delivered to you prior to your order, the digital art being freely available on the net the audience and potential buyer is already owner of the art - it is already distributed and downloaded by being browsed (much like quantum mechanics, readymades, zen, or similar commodities). In addition, the art of Noemata is open content licenced, meaning no fee can be charged for it, so that's another problem - no order, no payment (if you figure out a way to pay us we'll consider whether to accept it or not). By buying shares of Noemata in the form of art we in Ars Publica fancy having provided a solution where you can order something you already possess, and purchase something which may not be charged for - these are problematic issues, maybe paradoxical, anyway, we'll have a shot in the arm at it. Welcome to net.art commerce on the net! Ars Publica is a registered organisation with org.no. 983.153.933.NO, registered in Norway (Brønnøysundregistrene). Contact and requests arspublica@kunst.no <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.arspublica.com/">http://www.arspublica.com/</a> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 3. Date: 12.19.03 From: Abanze (abanze@web.de) Subject: banyan project - a traveling festival BANJAN PROJECT January 21 - April 05 2004 TAHITI - FIJI - NEW ZEALAND - AUSTRALIA - INDONESIA - LAOS - THAILAND A TRAVELING FESTIVAL: Offroad presentations of works by artists, musicians, VJs, filmmakers and performers from the places the project travels through and all continents. Contributions, DVDs, MiniDVvideo, CDRs, paintings, prints, AudioCDs etc. can be submitted by postage. You can find the postal addresses for certain periods of time on the website <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.banyan-project.de">http://www.banyan-project.de</a> Small data records, e.g. FLASH movies, photos or MP3 music can be sent by email: abanze@web.de alfred@khm.de SCREENINGS: Festival international du film documentaire d'Océanie in Tahiti, 21. - 23 January 2004 2nd ICECA New Media Art Festival in Bangkok, 25th of march 2004 Evening performances take place in the street, in the proximity of nightmarkets, on temple areas and meeting points, at fairs and ceremonies, on the roads around metropolises and deep in the jungle. Participants are invited to visit the project for themselves. We can not pay for travel expenses, but we offer assistance with individual fonding requests. BANYAN is a kind of a moving open studio, in which participants can work on their individual projects. THEME: The BANYAN tree grows almost downward from above, it begins as a PARASiTE and then drives air roots, from which new part trees grow. Therefore a computer network system is named after it: Banyan Vines. The tree is holy in many religions. And it supplies the topic and the organisational structure of this project. Support: IFA German Institute for Foreign Relations. Children Make Art with Media - Cultural Education in the Age of Media. Maison de la Culture Papeete. Festival International du Film documentaire d'Oceanie Tahiti. 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PLUS, those who sign up for Rhizome hosting before January 15, 2004 will receive a *FREE* domain name for one year. And there is more, the hosted can take comfort in knowing they're being active roots in the rhizome schema, helping the .ORG self-sustain. Details at: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.broadspire.com/order/rhizome/freedomain.html">https://www.broadspire.com/order/rhizome/freedomain.html</a> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 4. Date: 12.15.03 From: Michael Brodsky (mbrodsky@lmu.edu) Subject: Assistant Professor of Multimedia Arts - Tenure Track Position Assistant Professor of Multimedia Arts , full-time tenure-track position. Fall 2004 Loyola Marymount University, Los Angeles, CA. Department of Art and Art History seeks an excellent artist/teacher in the area of Multimedia. Ability to teach 2-D Computer Graphics on the Macintosh with an additional emphasis in Motion Graphics (AfterEffects) and/or 3-D (Maya). New Media and multi-disciplinary orientation. Duties: teach 3 undergraduate level courses per semester, advise students, assist with university committee and departmental work; professional research and creative work required; and the ability to address the needs of a growing program within an Art and Art History Department at a liberal arts institution. REQUIREMENTS MFA or equivalent experience. Three years college level teaching beyond Graduate Assistantship preferred. Application letter, CV, Teaching Philosophy, Technical Strengths. Appropriate evidence of professional activity, i.e. Slides, CD-ROM, or Sample Reel, include slides and/or examples of student work, 3 letters of recommendation, and SASE. Applications received prior to February 2, 2004 will be considered for interviews at CAA Seattle. DEADLINE: March 1, 2004 or until filled. EOE/AA/WMA Fr. Michael Tang, Chair, Department of Art and Art History, Loyola Marymount University, One LMU Drive, MS 8346, Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659. USA 310-338-7424. <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:mtang@lmu.edu">mailto:mtang@lmu.edu</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lmu.edu/colleges/cfa/art/">http://www.lmu.edu/colleges/cfa/art/</a> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 5. Date: 12.15.03 From: Rachel Greene (rachel@rhizome.org) Subject: Rhizome Seeks Intern to Work on International, Scholarly Outreach Program Rhizome.org Seeks Intern to Work on International, Scholarly Outreach Program Rhizome.org, a nonprofit organization focused on new media art, is seeking an Intern to work on an international outreach program building the subscriber-base of our site and email lists. We seek an exceptionally smart, web-savvy, people-person to take on responsibilities relating to our organizational subscriptions program. This intern's primary responsibility is to oversee the invitation and sign-up process for international organizations subscribing to Rhizome.org. The successful candidate will be articulate, interested in new media art, archives, non-profit development and willing to grow the audience of our organization. Rhizome.org is among the oldest and most well-respected organizations in the field of new media art. For more information about the organization and our programs, please check out our web site: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://rhizome.org">http://rhizome.org</a>. PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES: + Compile list of libraries, centers and schools that might benefit from organizational subscriptions to Rhizome.org. + Send out invitations to the appropriate people at these institutions, in conjunction with Rhizome's Executive Director + Conduct follow-ups. Answer any questions about Rhizome.org that might arise + Help negotiate subscriptions + Organize accounts such that the Director of Technology can implement new subscriptions + Represent Rhizome in meetings or perhaps travel as a representative of the program + Work with Director of Technology to create tracking system to oversee renewal process REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS: + Good communication skills (i.e. letter-writing, follow-up, phone outreach) + Experience with organizational development + Must be highly organized Exceptional candidates will also have the following skills: + Experience with arts administration START DATE: January, 2004. END DATE: TBD SALARY: This is an unpaid internship. It would be ideal for a student who receives academic credit for internships. LOCATION: Rhizome is located at the New Museum of Contemporary Art in New York City. TO APPLY: Please email a cover letter and resume to Rachel Greene, Executive Director: rachel@rhizome.org Rachel Greene Rhizome.org New Museum of Contemporary Art 583 Broadway NY, NY 10012 212.218.1288 X 208 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 6. Date: 12.17.03 From: Chris (chris_cryer@westvalley.edu) Subject: Tenure Track New Media Arts Position The West Valley College Art Department (Saratoga, CA) is seeking applicants for a tenure track, New Media Arts Instructor. The successful candidate will teach fundamental to advanced art and design courses using traditional and digital media tools and techniques which may include interactive authoring. Practical experience with cross platform, mixed media issues, instructional supplementation, and curriculum development is desired. The successful candidate should be willing to collaborate with students, faculty, and staff to create a productive learning environment. Applicants with the knowledge, skill, ability and life experiences to address the educational needs of a diverse student population are encouraged to apply. Download an application: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.wvmccd.cc.ca.us/wvmccd/hr/">http://www.wvmccd.cc.ca.us/wvmccd/hr/</a> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 7. Date: 12.17.03 From: Soren Pold (pold@multimedia.au.dk) Subject: Call for Papers: READ_ME 2004 Please, distribute - sorry for crossposting ————————————————————- READ_ME 2004 software art festival / / Software Art and Cultures Runme-Dorkbot conference city camp ————————————————————- The third edition of the Read_Me software art festival will be held at the end of August 2004 in Aarhus, Denmark. Read_me 2004 will consist of the conference at Aarhus University and the city camp organized by two friendly entities: Runme.org and Dorkbot. The conference and the city camp will be held consecutively. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( This is an announcement concerning the Software Art and Cultures conference. The information on the Runme-Dorkbot city camp will follow later. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Software Art and Cultures conference aims to provide an opportunity for people researching software art and culture to share their findings. The art movement known by the name "software art" has been active for a few years, and similar phenomena under different names have been developed and researched for a few decades. It is our belief that there is a sufficient body of thinking in this and related areas taking place that there should be a platform for aiding further discovery and enrichment. Software art is a practice that regards software as a cultural phenomenon that defines one of the significant aspects of our lives today. Thus, software is not regarded as an invisible layer, but rather as a significant entity contributing to reproduction or change of certain orders, whether aesthetic, cultural, social or political. Software art creatively questions and redefines software and its ways of functioning. Software art embraces a wide range of practices: from formalist experiments with code and its execution to software manipulation that does not require any specific knowledge, from alternative tools built from scratch to add-ons and deconstructions, from real software to projects not written in programming languages at all, but which deal with issues relevant to software criticism or culture. Software art deals with a wide range of topics, including social, political, and aesthetic issues. In many cases, it addresses and becomes part of software culture itself. Software cultures - cultures generated by programmers, designers and software users - are generous sources of thinking on digital culture and society. Software cultures define the way software is created and functions, thus influencing the composition and function of the basic infrastructures of digital society. In this way, software cultures become inseparable (though largely underestimated) from the forms digital work, social institutions and cultural manifestations take today. Software cultures initiate social change, act in political spheres, create and discover new artistic realms and methodologies. The conference encourages participation of specialists in various disciplines: multi-disciplinary researchers including non-academics, art theorists, and other thinkers and learners interested in the effects of software and software cultures on art, culture, and society - and in ways to analyze them and challenge existing patterns. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| This is a call for submissions of abstracts (up to 2500 characters). Authors of accepted abstracts will be asked to submit the full paper before 1 of June, 2004 (up to 25000 characters) and present it during the conference. The papers will be published prior to the conference. We aim to provide grants for travel and lodging for speakers without institutional backing. Deadline for abstracts: 1 of March, 2004 Deadline for notification of acceptance: 1 of April, 2004 Abstracts may be submitted to: Olga Goriunova (og@dxlab.org> and Soeren Pold (pold@multimedia.au.dk> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Organized by: Read_Me, Digital Aesthetics Research Centre (www.digital-aestetik.dk) (Aarhus University), Det Jyske Kunstakademi (The Jutland Academy of Fine Arts), Runme.org, Dorkbot. Supported by: IT-Vest, Aarhus Kommune ——————————————————————–= *************** NEW PHONE NUMBER + ADRESS**************** Soeren Pold, ph.d., adjunkt (assistant professor) Multimedia Studies & Comparative Literature University of Aarhus Office: Wiener: 5347.136 IT Parken phone: +45 8942 9254 Helsingforsgade 14 fax +45 8942 5624 DK-8200 Aarhus N, Denmark email: pold@multimedia.au.dk, soeren@bro-pold.dk (priv.) <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bro-pold.dk">http://www.bro-pold.dk</a> ——————————————————————–= Center for Digital Costetik-forskning: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.digital-aestetik.dk">http://www.digital-aestetik.dk</a> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 8. Date: 12.11.03-12.15.03 From: Francis Hwang (francis@rhizome.org), Ana Boa-Ventura (anaventura@mail.utexas.edu), Matthew Mascotte (mascotte@mac.com), Gita Hashemi (gita@ping.ca), Rob Myers (robmyers@mac.com), Pall Thayer (palli@pallit.lhi.is), Michael Szpakowski (szpako@yahoo.com), Patrick Simons (patricksimons@gloriousninth.com), Rachel Greene (rachel@rhizome.org) Subject: commissions voting process Francis Hwang (francis@rhizome.org) posted: Hi everybody: As you may know, we're going to be involving the Rhizome members in the voting process for the 2004 Net Art Commissions. Below is a first draft of this process, and I'd appreciate any comments on it. The below is just a draft; nothing is fixed at this point. We're open to comments on any part of the process described below. I'd appreciate it if readers gave special consideration to the following issues: 1. The filtering process. We will probably receive more than 100 entries, and we want to filter this down to (say) 25 finalists. It is unreasonable to expect everybody to read all 100 proposals, so we need to design a system that allows participants to read a small percentage of those proposals and vote on those. The available literature says very little about this sort of a system, even though the recent California recall probably had the same problem. The "INITIAL STAGE" system below is entirely of my own invention; any opinions on it would be appreciated. 2. Discretion and sensitivity to proposals It's important to us that people be considerate of all the proposals submitted. In an open call such as this we're going to be receiving proposals at widely varying levels of quality, professionalism, and experience. We want to make sure that we don't have a situation where artists feel like their proposals are being publically criticized in a way that is insensitive or unfair. (Note that this problem is one of the added complications with a more open process; if you just have a jury meeting in a conference room or over a small email list you can be much more candid.) We want to make sure that no artist feels intimidated by the process, either for this round or for any Commissions in the future. Any suggestions as to how to foster the most constructive discussions would be appreciated. 3. Implementation time The chances are good that I am going to have to implement this by scratch. So to any changes I reserve the right to put on my Cranky Techie hat and say "That's not gonna happen." Any proposals for changes to the process described below should not make things any more complicated. Simpler is better. BTW, if you're interested in poli-sci geekery you might check out the "Alternative Voting Systems" paper I read when thinking about this: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://bcn.boulder.co.us/government/approvalvote/altvote.html">http://bcn.boulder.co.us/government/approvalvote/altvote.html</a> Francis ———- The Rhizome.org 2004 Net Art Commissions will award five new net art projects with commissions ranging from $1,500 to $3,500. We are interested in having a relatively open decision-making process that gives community members a substantial say in these awards while also retaining a traditional voting role for the Commissions jury. VOTING ELIGIBILITY To be eligible to vote in the Commissions process, you need to be a Rhizome member in good standing. In addition, to prevent people from signing up at the last minute solely for the purpose of influencing the result, only Rhizome members with accounts that were created before August 15, 2003 may vote. (There are currently more than 28000 user accounts in the Rhizome system that were created before that date.) Each Rhizome member should only vote once, regardless of how many valid memberships that person may have. We reserve the right to eliminate any votes if we believe that they come from a member who is voting with more than one membership. INITIAL STAGE Rhizome's first Commissioning Program, the 2002 cycle, received more than 100 entries. We expect this Commissioning Program to receive at least the same number of entries. Rhizome community members will choose finalists from this initial pool. They will be asked to vote Yes or No for any and all proposals, and will be able to change their votes at any time in the initial stage. Although members will be able to vote on any proposal at any time, they will also be given an interface that encourages them to review proposals with the least number of votes, so that all proposals will receive roughly the same number of votes. Under this system, no member will be required to review all the proposals. However, the more proposals you vote for, the more influence you will have over which proposals proceed to the final stage. At the end of the first stage, each proposal will be ranked according to the percentage of Yes votes it receives. For example, a proposal which receives 10 Yes votes will be ranked at 100%, and a proposal that receives 15 Yes votes and 5 No votes will be ranked at 75%. The highest ranking 25 proposals will move on to the final stage; this may be more than 25 in the case of ties. The initial stage will last from February 15 to February 29, 2004. FINAL STAGE In the final stage, both Rhizome members and the jury will choose awardees based on the pool of 25 or more finalists. Rhizome members will choose one of the five awards; the jury will choose the remaining four. The final stage will last from March 1 to March 15, 2004. FINAL STAGE: RHIZOME MEMBERS From the 25 or more finalists, Rhizome members will be able to choose one of the five awards. The voting system used for the final stage will be Single Transferable Vote, also known as Instant Runoff Voting. Each voter will rank the proposals from most favorite to least favorite. When the votes are tallied, the first-place votes are counted to see if any proposal has received more than 50% of the votes. If so, then that proposal is the winner. Otherwise, the proposal with the least first-place votes is removed from the list of proposals, and the process is repeated. For example: Five voters have to choose one winning proposal among four candidates: a, b, c, and d. They vote as follows: Maximilian: abc Lukas: acb Niklas: bca Jurgen: bac Hans: cab In the first round, a gets 2 votes, b gets 2, and c gets 1. Nobody has the majority (3), so we remove the least popular candidate, c, making Hans' vote effectively "ab". Now a gets 3 votes and b gets 2 votes, and a is the winner. Voters are not required to rank all final proposals, but they are encouraged to rank as many as possible. If you rank only a few candidates, it's possible that your vote will end up being eliminated entirely in the final tally. In the event that the jury feels that the members' first-place choice will require a disproportionately large amount of the commission funds, we reserve the right to substitute a choice further down the members' list. FINAL STAGE: JURY The jury consists of German critic Tilman Baumgartel, artist Natalie Bookchin of CalArts, Rachel Greene of Rhizome.org, Francis Hwang of Rhizome.org, and Japanese curator Yukiko Shikata. This jury will be responsible for choosing four of the five awards. The jury will decide on four awards, with one more on deck in case there is overlap with the Rhizome members' choice. The process for this will be much less formal. Maybe it will involve monkeys. DISCUSSION At all phases of the process, we encourage and expect open discussion of the proposals, both on Rhizome and elsewhere online. We hope that this discussion will be respectful and considerate of all the artists involved. + + + Ana Boa-Ventura (anaventura@mail.utexas.edu) replied: Francis, I want to compliment you on this document: it's excellent! I have only one doubt. When you say: "For example, a proposal which receives 10 Yes votes will be ranked at 100%, and a proposal that receives 15 Yes votes and 5 No votes will be ranked at 75%." Does this mean that i can vote "yes" , "no" or express "no opinion" for piece X? In which case it is the ratio of "yes" versus "no" for that particular piece that counts? Hmmm. If this is so the only thing that i thought we should be aware of - and may come up in the discussion - is a bit like the unreliability of studies based on voluntary surveys. You're only going to answer if you feel strongly about whatever is covered there - if you loved it or hated it you'll answer . If you're just ok with it you probably won't. Doesn't this yes/no proportion have implications there? But then again, is there a better alternative? I really don't know - just wanted to alert y'all to possible consequences of: 1- allowing people to choose the pieces they're saying somethig about it (i'm sure it would be a nigthmare but maybe you could assign works to people? guess the interface encouraging you to vote on the ones that haven't voted yet could be the solution - and i'm curious about it.:)) 2- having the ratio yes/no to influence the overall result as opposed to yes only. All the best and kudos on the description of the voting process! + + + Matthew Mascotte (mascotte@mac.com) replied: hey. i like your approach and the process. but i feel excluded because i joined in october 2003. i very much want to partcipate in this process. please reconsider the cut off date. regards, matthew f. mascotte + + + Francis Hwang replied: I imagined that you could only vote "yes" or "no". You can't vote "no opinion", though you can simply choose not to vote on a particular proposal. It is true that this voting system will be weighted towards those who feel strongly about the process and various proposals. I think that's generally true of all voting systems, though. I wouldn't be surprised if the core group of voters is only about 100 or 200 die-hards, though I'd love it if everybody voted. I'm only concerned if this would disadvantage individual pieces against others, but I have a hard time imagining how it would do that. I'm less concerned about the cases where each proposal gets, say, 100 votes. The wierd cases will be if not a lot of people vote and a proposal gets just 1 vote. Then its score can only be 100% or 0%. Not sure how to counteract that effect, other than to try to design the interface in such a way that the proposal with the least votes pops up at the top of the list. + + + Francis Hwang added: A good point. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to make the cutoff point something much later, like December 1. F. On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 12:00 PM, Matthew Mascotte wrote: ) hey. i like your approach and the ) process. but i feel excluded because ) i joined in october 2003. i very much ) want to partcipate in this process. please ) reconsider the cut off date. ) ) regards, ) ) matthew f. mascotte + + + Gita Hashemi (gita@ping.ca) replied: At 3:19 PM -0500 12/11/03, Francis Hwang wrote: ) )For example: Five voters have to choose one winning proposal among four )candidates: a, b, c, and d. They vote as follows: ) )Maximilian: abc )Lukas: acb )Niklas: bca )Jurgen: bac )Hans: cab Questions: Would the voters have to be European- and male-identified? a. no b. this is a stupid question c. yes Or, do we simply don't care about these things any longer? a. no b. i said, this is a stupid question c. yes Or, is this simply a stupid question? a. no b. look, i told you, this really is a stupid question c. yes Respectfully, Gita Hashemi Member for some time Vote: abc No, wait. Maybe: cab Although, I could also go with: bca What do these votes mean anyway? Democracy? + + + Francis Hwang replied: Let's be specific: They're not just European men, they're German men. Why is that? a: Because human names are more interesting than labels like "Voting Automoton Alpha", "Beta", "Delta", etc. b: Francis thought that the poli-sci geekery could be lightened up with a little levity, or, in pseudo Valley-Girl parlance, something "totally random". c: Christmas-time stress makes Francis sexually frustrated and maybe he's got some odd sexual fetish that he should keep to himself. d: Because deep down inside Francis wants to be a German man. e: He chose that category at random, and next time he writes a similar document he promises to use names of half-Korean transsexuals. f: Monkey. Yours, F. + + + Rob Myers (robmyers@mac.com) added: We should vote in Lisp. So the candidates would be (setq candidates (cons Maximillian (cons Lukas (cons Niklas (cons Jurgen (cons Hans nil)))))) And we could vote by saying '('caddr 'caddddr 'cadr) - Rob. + + + Pall Thayer (palli@pallit.lhi.is) added: How about voting with a lisp: Maxthimilian theeaybee Lukath aytheebee Niklath etc…. Pall + + + Michael Szpakowski (szpako@yahoo.com) replied: Actually what might be really interesting and remove it from the level of tokenism is if the *entire* jury was elected by the paid up rhizome community. ( and perhaps if the subject of the commissions was decided similarly too) michael + + + Patrick Simons (patricksimons@gloriousninth.com) added: Totally in agreement with young Michael here, perhaps the process for deciding the theme of the commissions could take the form of a game? kerplunk Patrick + + + Rachel Greene (rachel@rhizome.org) replied: I take this as a strong suggestion for our next round of commissions, but I am afraid we're too far along with this year's program to either change the theme (which was decided upon over a year ago, by the way), or to uninvite the jury. – Rachel + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Rhizome.org is a 501©(3) nonprofit organization and an affiliate of the New Museum of Contemporary Art. 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