I tend to agree with Lewis, below, and also with
Michael about the creepyness of forecasting quotation
as specifically postmodern, given that it has been
happening "forever."

The question, now, is this… Is every quotation a
remix?

And, furthermore, while we're at it… What is the
difference between hacking & remixing, if hacking is
simply a modification of the object? (Is it?)

Is it a specific intent (ie political, activist,
deviant, whatever…)? Is it a matter of
functionality–ie the object's ability to do so, as
intended, after the mod? Is it a question of the
relationship between a representational form/object
and its machinery? (ie a film object vs the content of
film; software vs the computer it runs on–not that
these are parallel terms, in this analogy!)

??????
marisa


— Lewis LaCook <llacook@yahoo.com> wrote:

> when you play a musical instrument, all you're doing
> is remixing sounds that exist as potential in the
> instrument in ways you find pleasing—when you
> write
> a poem, all you're doing is remixing the english
> language until you find your text interesting–>
>
> ALL ART IS REMIXING—ALL CULTURE IS REMIXING—-
>
> bliss
> l
>
>
> — Francis Hwang <francis@rhizome.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 22, 2004, at 11:40 AM, curt cloninger
> wrote:
> > > But, like Michael, I'm not entirely convinced
> that
> > "remixity"
> > > ["quotations intended"] is uniquely intrinsic or
> > inherent to the
> > > underlying ethos of all digital art (although
> > maybe it is, and there
> > > are sure plenty of people trumpeting the fact
> that
> > it definitely is).
> > > Maybe remixity is just the most immediately
> > obvious thing to do with
> > > digital media, and so we see a lot of it simply
> > because the novelty
> > > hasn't worn off yet. One way or the other, it's
> > safe to assert that
> > > digital art makes remixity and appropriation
> > feasibly/logistically
> > > easier from a production standpoint.
> >
> > I'd say that remixity isn't the raison d'etre of
> > digital art, though
> > digital tools certainly favor remixity
> > disproportionately over other
> > modes of production. Remixity is interesting for
> > plenty of reasons on
> > its own; one of the big ones is that, outside of
> the
> > whole whomping
> > intellectual property debate, it rejiggers the
> > proportional role of the
> > artist in society. For one thing, it takes a long
> > time to get down the
> > craftsmanship of original image- or
> object-crafting,
> > whether that's
> > sculpting marble or using oil paint or whatever.
> > It's a lot quicker
> > just to buy a bunch of LPs and learn to spin. Not
> to
> > say that DJing
> > isn't a skill–but that you're leveraging the
> > creativity of others in a
> > way that requires, on one hand, less effort from
> > you, but on the other
> > hand, more effort if you want to stand out the way
> > Pollock or Picasso
> > did.
> >
> > (As a sidenote, I am pretty annoyed with how "DJ"
> in
> > club culture has
> > devolved into "somebody who knows how to play
> > records" from "somebody
> > who knows how to spin records". I suppose that's
> > just my old club
> > snobbery popping up again.)
> >
> > If we accept remixing as a creative mode that's as
> > worthy of study as
> > painting or sculpture or video or performance,
> then
> > the tent of fine
> > arts suddenly becomes a lot bigger, because people
> > out in the world are
> > remixing all the time without writing an artist's
> > statement.
> > 16-year-old kids making mashups on their Macs at
> > home. PC casemods.
> > Quilts. We probably don't have room in all our
> > museums to show all that
> > stuff, too.
> >
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