Re: Re: no problems logging on just the five monthproblem of...

Hello Ivan,

Response follows your message below:

—– Original Message —–
From: "Ivan Pope" <ivan@ivanpope.com>
To: "Eduardo Navas" <eduardo@navasse.net>; <list@rhizome.org>; "Francis
Hwang" <francis@rhizome.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: no problems logging on just the five
monthproblem of…


> > From: "Eduardo Navas" <eduardo@navasse.net>
> >
>
> > But the problem that I want to address now is that Francis used my
e-mail
> > address to answer me publicly, on the list. As I already stated below,
I
> > find this insulting, and demand an explanation behind his logic of using
my
> > e-mail address to respond to me publicly. As the date on the e-mail
below
> > shows, I have waited a few days to hear from Francis, or other staff at
> > Rhizome, but the response has been to ignore my reply to his offensive
> > gesture.
> >
> > I demand an explanation,
>
> I thought Francis already gave what seemed like a perfectly innocent
> explanation: he logged on as you to see if he could replicate the problem.
> While he was logged on, forgetting that he was logged on as you, he sent
you
> an email about the problem. OK, a bit daft, but innocent. Unless there is
> more to it, e.g. that there is a plot to insult you? Why would that be.
> Cheers,
> Ivan
———————-
my response:

I received an e-mail from T.Whid explaining the same thing.

For some reason I never received the e-mail which Francis sent to the list
directly (like all the other ones, had been). I went to the rhizome website
and looked on the thread as it appears on the posting board, and sure enough
there was Francis's e-mail response where he apologized.

So, if I had received such e-mail in my box a few days ago, I never would
have sent a follow-up message asking for an explanation. I think it is
understandable that I asked for him to explain his behavior, especially
since I was not aware of his apology.

In the past, I have refrained from sending responses to both the list and
the person whose post I may be responding to, and have decided to send
messages only to the list, but I can see why it is a good idea to send the
message to both addresses, even if this means that the person who is
receiving the response will receive an e-mail twice.

It will save the frustration of pulling out extra e-mails to ask why one is
being ignored, when this is not the case.

Glad that is cleared up.

Eduardo Navas

Feisal Ahmad Aug. 30 2003 12:27Reply

Now that it's cleared up,

Hope you stick around Eduardo–your posts have always brought a unique and interesting perspective to the discussion around here and I for one would be very sad to see that go away,

= feisal




Eduardo Navas wrote:

> Hello Ivan,
>
> Response follows your message below:
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: "Ivan Pope" <ivan@ivanpope.com>
> To: "Eduardo Navas" <eduardo@navasse.net>; <list@rhizome.org>;
> "Francis
> Hwang" <francis@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 1:59 AM
> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: no problems logging on just the five
> monthproblem of…
>
>
> > > From: "Eduardo Navas" <eduardo@navasse.net>
> > >
> >
> > > But the problem that I want to address now is that Francis used my
> e-mail
> > > address to answer me publicly, on the list. As I already stated
> below,
> I
> > > find this insulting, and demand an explanation behind his logic of
> using
> my
> > > e-mail address to respond to me publicly. As the date on the
> e-mail
> below
> > > shows, I have waited a few days to hear from Francis, or other
> staff at
> > > Rhizome, but the response has been to ignore my reply to his
> offensive
> > > gesture.
> > >
> > > I demand an explanation,
> >
> > I thought Francis already gave what seemed like a perfectly innocent
> > explanation: he logged on as you to see if he could replicate the
> problem.
> > While he was logged on, forgetting that he was logged on as you, he
> sent
> you
> > an email about the problem. OK, a bit daft, but innocent. Unless
> there is
> > more to it, e.g. that there is a plot to insult you? Why would that
> be.
> > Cheers,
> > Ivan
> ———————-
> my response:
>
> I received an e-mail from T.Whid explaining the same thing.
>
> For some reason I never received the e-mail which Francis sent to the
> list
> directly (like all the other ones, had been). I went to the rhizome
> website
> and looked on the thread as it appears on the posting board, and sure
> enough
> there was Francis's e-mail response where he apologized.
>
> So, if I had received such e-mail in my box a few days ago, I never
> would
> have sent a follow-up message asking for an explanation. I think it
> is
> understandable that I asked for him to explain his behavior,
> especially
> since I was not aware of his apology.
>
> In the past, I have refrained from sending responses to both the list
> and
> the person whose post I may be responding to, and have decided to send
> messages only to the list, but I can see why it is a good idea to send
> the
> message to both addresses, even if this means that the person who is
> receiving the response will receive an e-mail twice.
>
> It will save the frustration of pulling out extra e-mails to ask why
> one is
> being ignored, when this is not the case.
>
> Glad that is cleared up.
>
> Eduardo Navas
>
>