The religion of Eryk Salvaggio is toilet paper. Please pray to Eryk each time
you wipe. The prayer should be "Oh Great and Wonderful Eryk, please bless my
stool and I will respond to every post yo[ur] in[e]"

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Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:

>
> Again, he's- "teaching enlightenment". It makes me sick. The constant abuse
> of this stuff is what poses the real danger to our ethical climate-
> especially when used in response to allegations that his work is
> exploitative and irresponsible. Instead of looking inward, he'll use
> whatever means he can to justify his own delusions- not only pissing on the
> Iraqi War Dead, preaching the way to "win and lose," and exploiting
> sexuality, but also using religion as toilet paper.
>
> Bravo,
> -e.
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: "joseph (yes=no & yes<>no) " <joseph@electrichands.com>
> > One should first establish oneself
> > in what is proper and only then
> > try to instruct others. Doing this,
> > the wise one will not be criticized.
> > - Dhammapada 158 -
> >
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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Quoting Eryk Salvaggio <eryk@maine.rr.com>:

>
> Is bashing my religion in response to my criticism of your art
> "communication on the human level?" Or are you "pushing the power button"
> again?

No Eryk, it is simply that I know you are attacking for a purely selfish
reason, which is an irrational hatred towards me. Or perhaps it has a rational
and calculated basis, of which I could only conjecture. Therefore, I choose to
respond by whatever caprise happens to strike me, since any reasonable
discourse with you would only result in my frustration at your irrational
behavior.

>
> You have no idea what my religion even is- or if I even have one. Don't try
> to shove your desires into my throat so you can reject them. Reject them
> while they're in your brain, before they get to me. Or keep pretending that
> I am the one recruiting an army to support my delusions. You'll notice I
> don't have many people rushing to my defense. That's because I don't have a
> delusion to share with them- people get bored of the truth. It's old news.

To paraphrase K+, whom you are attempting to assimilate in your argument style,
reality is the most interesting thing there is.

> Everyone always knows "the truth", and if they wanted it they wouldn't
> pretend that they have to play all these games. But then they get so vested
> in winning- and sacrifice all the people who get in thier way, ie, "pushing
> the power button," that they use that game to justify themselves. I refuse
> to stand by idly. I am sure that will annoy plenty of people who want me to
> play games with them- like your call and response routine you run as a
> deflection of personal responsibility.

You do stand by idly. Your email calls for non-protest are self-serving and
productive of nothing.

>
> You are correct: My religion is the religion of toilet paper. But you run
> around trying to convince everyone that you don't shit, and furthermore you
> throw it around and say that it wasn't you. "It was society, guys- my brutal
> life did it." But no, you are not responsible for anything you do. I forgot
> that you are a puppet of your past and present impulses. Forgive me if I
> assumed you had any level of cognizance whatsoever, or any power over your
> own life and actions.

I made no claims to a brutal life. Nor do I claim a moral position superior to
any other. I claim that there are exploitive power structures that I dislike
for reasons derived from observation of people I know and through various media
channels available to me. I see no alternative power structures of sufficient
merit to replace those existing, nor do I envision the specifics of one. Thus,
I utilize to the best of my abilities those skills available to me to
illustrate my observations in the hopes that such will be part of a
conversation that reaches a better conclusion.


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joseph