"digital poetry" vs net art
You don't have to be good at painting to be an artist.
Why should you be good at HTML.
Vijay ("disco") http://www.2moksha.com
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> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:57:18 +0000
> ruth catlow <ruth.catlow@furtherfield.org> Ivan Pope
<ivan@ivanpope.com> , list@rhizome.org RHIZOME_RAW: "digital poetry" vs
net artReply-To: ruth catlow <ruth.catlow@furtherfield.org>
>
> > > lewis wrote:
> > > > me, i just want a net art that is truly an art fitted to its medium…i
> > > want a net art that literally requires the net work in order to manifest
> > > itself…
> >
>
> ruth wrote:
>
> > > I think this gives the institutions and the structures of the net work
> > > far too much respect. Isn't this like saying that we only want art that
> > > requires the cubey white walls of a gallery? Why are you so eager to
> > > squash your squishy, expressive, human flesh sourced imaginations into
> > > the predetermined and rigid labyrinths of mathematically determined
> > > structures?
>
> ivan wrote:
>
> > My reading of lewis's statement is that he calls for network art that
> > fundamentallly uses the network. i.e. not network art that could just as
> > easily be displayed on a disconnected computer in a gallery. But pieces that
> > use the network in some way to become themselves. And this should not
> > necessarily mean the network of wires and routers and IP protocols but the
> > network of information or the network of human activity. There are of course
> > many works that do this already, so Im not saying much … and, Im not
> > claiming value for this approach. But I think to equate this with wanting
> > art that fits in a white cube gallery is missing a point?
>
> It's just that I thought I got a whiff of a kind of purist, muscular,
> Greenbergian ethos (which I've never experienced in any of Lewis's work or
> writing). I'm glad I did too, as it catalyzed the sharpening of a few of my own
> blunt thoughts.
> As for:-
>
> > Maybe there's a
> > May68 type slogan here: The Network Is Not A Gallery
>
> Hurrah! :-D
>
> cheers
> Ruth
>
> furtherfield.org
>
> + KNORRRRRRR
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