Ew. As if Lenin didn't feed enough when 'alive'.

I'd like to make a commentary on the Communist
concentration camps however which are conveniently
not mentioned, the inappropriate use of the
population as experimental rabbits, the suppression
and harrassment of local cultures, the exploitations
of nationalities which weren't even minorities,
the suppression and abuse of anyone who dared to
work on acquiring individuality and consciousness,
the government endorsed persecution, property theft,
murder and ruination of native cultures, attempted use
of remaining shamans as experimental apes–and those
refusing being executed in various disgraceful ways
in a 'where are your superpowers' ignorant twit ways..
and of 'white' families–only so that a couple of
fat hicks with new-fangled 'education' can mooch off of
it while pretending to be 'serving the population'–and
the idiotic pretense of 'value' acquired by 'bashing
capitalism down' and the subsequent psychic torture of
the country's population to an extent that they're more
or less communists to money as catholics to guilt.
Not only that but a great deal of them are trained as hate
dogs to destroy and feed off of anything 'western'.

Ugh. The commentary was written long ago by Zamyatin,
and it was called We, and it wasn't about Capitalism.
As well as by all beings–artistic and otherwise
who were either expatriated, treated like dogs,
or left the country of their own volition.

What is to be done about LENIN?
Close your museum, that's what.
It's about as intelligent as opening a memorial to Hitler.
It puts crap in the heads of unsuspecting children.

Your invitation is attempting to fish for
and enslave artists to Political agendas
a good old dictatorial government trick.

You have no permission to use this by the way.
Any part of it, in any way. It's all
evil capitalist © of D42.

As for the rrrosion of the freedom to think,
ha! Come back when you CAN think, instead of
attempting to infect others with silly propaganda,
which does yer thinking for you.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Michael Crane wrote:

> substitute any US President's name for "Lenin"
> subsitute "US" for "Communist"
> and this diatribe still rings accurate

No, it doesn't. While US presidents are hardly saints,
they are hardly what Lenin was. Lenin for one was a
dictator. US presidents are muppets.

> You are the police fucker,

You're talking about yourself baby.
And your pathos-filled rebellious anti-police pose
is sheer idiocy. You're not more 'intelligent'
than them, nor are you doing any less adamage.

> you are your point of view.

Dictatorial drivel. Nobody is 'his/her point of view'.
Nice attempt at fircing cruci-identification-fixation
statification + flattening of my Being tho.

Murderous brute.

What up Finland, Genius 2000 is the cure, and bad is the disease.

G2K ain't no commie though.


>From: "susan kelly" <beyondpale@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "susan kelly" <beyondpale@hotmail.com>
>To: list@rhizome.org
>Subject: RHIZOME\_RAW: What is to be Done? Questions for the 21st Century
>Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:34:57 +0000
>
>[[this bounced from the normal submission level for some reason! Please can
>we re-post! Many thanks, Susan]]
>
>Dear friends,
>
>We are writing to let you know about a forthcoming exhibition at the Lenin
>Museum in Tampere, Finland.

From: "[iso-8859-1] Joao Pedro" <oliveirapereira1@sapo.pt>
To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>

Hello, Kandinskij:

.Do not write personal e-mails without requesting permission.

I'm a pacifist and a quiet guy,

.No,you aren't.

but now, you make me get out of temper:

.I don't 'make you' anything. Murderous idiot who refuses to
take responsibility for onself + so if you can't control your violence
it must be the intended victim's fault, da?

Lenin isn't like Hitler and,

.As if I wrote, said, or implied that. Illiterate ape.

if you don't know that, read the History books!

.Sod off. Condescending + ignorant twit.

In fact, Vladimir Ilich Ulianov, was one of the most importants
philosophers of the 20 Century!

.No he wasn't. He was a cheap dictatorial brute.

"Materialism and empirical criticism", in several volumes,

.What the fuck does it matter how many volumes is it in?

is a good exemple of that:

.No, it isn't.

i have read some parts of his work

.You are illiterate.

and, let me tell you,

.Dictatorial ape.

we have a lot to learn with Lenine!

.There is no we, idiot. Avoid attempting to blanket me with your 'we'
+ proceeding to attempt dictatorial slotting.

What he said, about imperialism, a last and advanced fase of the
capitalism, that was prophetic!

.No, it wasn't. It is a bunch of idiotic, meaningless, sloppy
drivel–and primarily a piece of communist PROPAGANDA.

Read it before talking!

.Sod off with your condescending ignorantape attitude.

By the way, the concentration camps that you mentioned, was in Staline
era and not in Lenine's time.

.False. They existed in Lenin's time as well. AND he was aware of them.

He died in 1924 and some biographers defended, that was murdered by
Staline!

.Standard propaganda trick.

Even after the revolution of 1917, Lenine never had the power control of
Russia!

.That's right. Lenin was a muppet dog.

He was very ill and since the beginning, it was Kamenev and Zinoviev that
take the control of politic "committee".

.Idiocy that you've 'read' in a book.

In this seven years, he suffered many attempts against his live, and when
he died, he never saw the realisation of what he preconize:

.The poor thing. He a martyr-hero.

a equality society for all!

.Humans are not equal.

And in our times, paradoxical it seems, we must believe that: a scociety
with opportunities for all, it's still possible!

.It's not paradoxical, it's drivel. Spare me your idiotic attempt
for brain-based manipulation. Followed up by psycho-sexual impulse
control trick: *we* *must* *believe*. Church time's over, dictatorial
twit.

PS: The Zamiatin novel was published in France, in 1929,

.Ttzt. Due to his being murdered in Russia and his request to
be allowed to emigrate with his wife: ie, he was KICKED OUT.
That is something easily demonstrable by his letters.

with the title "Nous Autres",

.Due to his political persecution.

and your interpretation that novel was

.This wasn't MY INTERPRETATION. It is hos OWN statement.

against the Lenine policy, was abusive and extemporaneous.

.No, it wasn't. It was precise and to the point.
Your wishful delusional haze of 'belief in communism'
is your own personal problema.