Eyescratch+NN: anatomy of victim/victimizer

Apropos eyescratch's NN commentary + examination of
the flattening (victimizer) mechanism
(also relevant to von Messiah / Beaubien's
attempts to dress me in such clothes)
(general descriptive of mistreatment of 'new'
beings in any 'circle'):

There are two types of 'victims':
the victimizer proper, whose energy has been sucked thru + thru
but has managed to preserve the 'spirit'
the victim, whose spirit is crushed, and lies as pool of
energy, which is portrayed as 'giving' 'good' and 'pretty'

the image-imprint of the interaction is always that of the
perpetrator, regardless if it is of the sort fomer or latter

most 'martyrs' selekt the latter, as this insures better
that the 'image' perpetuates itself beyond the victim's death

as apropos NN–eyescratch has been stamped + dislikes it

however, he remembers the image of the 'feeder' + so
attempts to 'stamp' that image on others it encounters,
hoping for identification and victimization of the encountered

there is nothing 'flattering' about such a game at all

apropos the general case: a 'shining' victim is idolized
typically someone who has gone part of the way to self-
completion (aka NN)

henceforth those who have enjoyed + savoured the murder of said
'individuals' attempt to enforce that anyone 'attempting'
'the way' is just like.. said victim

however the way for self-completion does not belong to anyone,
and there is no 'original'

it is a matter of timeless knowlege which belongs to anyone
wishing to access it

basic stuff of attempted sympathetic victimizing murder

and my dearest, don't forget to act 'pretty' while we
feed on you–we don't enjoy ill-mannered victims:
we are connoiseurs, after all

(cf. church perversion of the christ image)


my addressing these things is singularly motivated
to counter some of this happening–so sorry

rather the opposite–NN would wish that it were me


ciao

D42 Kandinskij Oct. 5 2002 01:00Reply

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] eyescratch

D42 Kandinskij Oct. 6 2002 01:00Reply

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] eyescratch

Max Herman Oct. 7 2002 01:00Reply

>On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] eyescratch

Max Herman Oct. 8 2002 01:00Reply

Hey kiddos, wanna be a success in the artworld? Well have a look at the
days and ways of the artists formerly known as A-List:

www.cguartmess.com


>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>To: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
>CC: <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Eyescratch+NN: anatomy of victim/victimizer
>Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 06:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > > > I don't think so. Your SF-MOMA rip-offs are banal and dead.
> > >
> >
> > I don't get it.
>
> There is nothing to get really.. esp considering that the SF-MOMA
> practically exists on exploiting and ripping off artists.
> Ha he.
>
> The little NN ra-botnik is pissy because all roads don't lead to
> the 'great' NN.
>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42




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D42 Kandinskij Oct. 8 2002 01:00Reply

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> What are these aforementioned sfmoma ripoffs?

No idea.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

D42 Kandinskij Oct. 8 2002 01:00Reply

On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Hey kiddos, wanna be a success in the artworld? Well have a look at the
> days and ways of the artists formerly known as A-List:
>
> www.cguartmess.com

But it doesn't say anything about the 'right manners'. I'm in distress.
However, if my life were to be betted on this with sane individuals,
I'd side with the existence of Atlantis rather than of an 'art world'.

Advanced communal hallucinations–the latest human fashion.

Is the above kitsh, fascism, art, or SFMOMA ripoff?

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Max Herman Oct. 8 2002 01:00Reply

What are these aforementioned sfmoma ripoffs?


>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>To: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
>CC: <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Eyescratch+NN: anatomy of victim/victimizer
>Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 06:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > > > I don't think so. Your SF-MOMA rip-offs are banal and dead.
> > >
> >
> > I don't get it.
>
> There is nothing to get really.. esp considering that the SF-MOMA
> practically exists on exploiting and ripping off artists.
> Ha he.
>
> The little NN ra-botnik is pissy because all roads don't lead to
> the 'great' NN.
>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42




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D42 Kandinskij Oct. 8 2002 01:00Reply

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> > > I don't think so. Your SF-MOMA rip-offs are banal and dead.
> >
>
> I don't get it.

There is nothing to get really.. esp considering that the SF-MOMA
practically exists on exploiting and ripping off artists.
Ha he.

The little NN ra-botnik is pissy because all roads don't lead to
the 'great' NN.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

Max Herman Oct. 9 2002 01:00Reply

Death,

If there is no artworld then whatinna heck's going on? Some kinda cracky
crappie-flop?

Goldschmidt said the same thing about communal hallucination.

So if you wanna find hell with me,

Max Herman


>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>To: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
>CC: <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: Eyescratch+NN: anatomy of victim/victimizer
>Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Hey kiddos, wanna be a success in the artworld? Well have a look at the
> > days and ways of the artists formerly known as A-List:
> >
> > www.cguartmess.com
>
> But it doesn't say anything about the 'right manners'. I'm in distress.
> However, if my life were to be betted on this with sane individuals,
> I'd side with the existence of Atlantis rather than of an 'art world'.
>
> Advanced communal hallucinations–the latest human fashion.
>
> Is the above kitsh, fascism, art, or SFMOMA ripoff?
>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42




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Max Herman Oct. 9 2002 01:00Reply

Eyescratch, what SFMOMA ripoffs were you referring to, bold thane?


>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>To: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
>CC: <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Eyescratch+NN: anatomy of victim/victimizer
>Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > What are these aforementioned sfmoma ripoffs?
>
> No idea.
>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42




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