No way! Talk about a mountain of evidence.

>From: "furtherfield" <info@furtherfield.org>
>Reply-To: "furtherfield" <info@furtherfield.org>
>To: <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: The Hitler Project
>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:39:35 +0100
>
>BlankThe Hitler Project
>
>For his part in the Hitler revolution, Prescott Bush was paid a fortune.
>
>This is the legacy he left to his son, President George Bush.
>
>http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm
>
>
>
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> Kiss me Daddy - like you used to - just there, that's it with your fist.
> Again you know I love you kicking me down, oo that feels so dominant so
> strong, so knowing, so solid, do it again…that's it love me with your
> fist. Mkae me know that you are the man, the father of all fathers - where's
> mummy daddy?

Could you be a bit more masochistic?

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> Yep,
>
> We are getting duped by established orders who have no interest in human
> issues or human lives, they are mainly more interested in maintaining their
> elitist heritage at whatever cost

What a bunch of idiotic schlock.
Wake up from your paranoid nightmare, baby.
`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

reQuoting furtherfield <info@furtherfield.org>:

> We are getting duped by established orders who have no interest in human
> issues or human lives, they are mainly more interested in maintaining their
> elitist heritage at whatever cost

I think that they are pursuing their own best interests (which they construe to
be the best interests of everyone except the designated scapegoat) and in doing
so are not paying attention to the costs to others outside their sphere of
protection and ignore/misunderstand the real long term ramifications of what
they do.

Those of use opposed to their actions, are, at the end of the day, pursuing
what we think are our best interests (even if we self-sacrifice, we made a
decision that is best for us) and by extension, the best interests of the
people we care about (be it the whole world). From their viewpoint, we are
probably trying to dupe them into giving up on what they believe is the best
for the world and their family.

So there you have it, a vast corporate/military power trying to protects its
world from a vast oil/religion power trying to expand its world (to protect it
from implosion) and a weak power of reason not rising to meet the challenge.

If you want to have a chance at winning this war, you can't cripple either side
alone - you have to defeat them both… how are you going to do this? Neither
of the two militant powers are going to listen to reason, why should they, in
their view if they give in to reason the other militant power wins the game.
There is no trust on either side.

I am afraid that the only solution is to kick both their asses, which opens up
a whole lot of problems of its own. Otherwise, try to bet on the winner and
wait.

It would be really cool if some great charismatic leader showed up that both
sides would trust.

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

I wanna know why Hemingway cracked:
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.


>From: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
><joseph@electrichands.com>
>Reply-To: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
><joseph@electrichands.com>
>To: furtherfield <info@furtherfield.org>
>CC: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>, list@rhizome.org
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The Hitler Project
>Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:52:42 -0400
>
>reQuoting furtherfield <info@furtherfield.org>:
>
> > We are getting duped by established orders who have no interest in human
> > issues or human lives, they are mainly more interested in maintaining
>their
> > elitist heritage at whatever cost
>
>I think that they are pursuing their own best interests (which they
>construe to
>be the best interests of everyone except the designated scapegoat) and in
>doing
>so are not paying attention to the costs to others outside their sphere of
>protection and ignore/misunderstand the real long term ramifications of
>what
>they do.
>
>Those of use opposed to their actions, are, at the end of the day, pursuing
>what we think are our best interests (even if we self-sacrifice, we made a
>decision that is best for us) and by extension, the best interests of the
>people we care about (be it the whole world). From their viewpoint, we
>are
>probably trying to dupe them into giving up on what they believe is the
>best
>for the world and their family.
>
>So there you have it, a vast corporate/military power trying to protects
>its
>world from a vast oil/religion power trying to expand its world (to protect
>it
>from implosion) and a weak power of reason not rising to meet the
>challenge.
>
>If you want to have a chance at winning this war, you can't cripple either
>side
>alone - you have to defeat them both… how are you going to do this?
>Neither
>of the two militant powers are going to listen to reason, why should they,
>in
>their view if they give in to reason the other militant power wins the
>game.
>There is no trust on either side.
>
>I am afraid that the only solution is to kick both their asses, which opens
>up
>a whole lot of problems of its own. Otherwise, try to bet on the winner
>and
>wait.
>
>It would be really cool if some great charismatic leader showed up that
>both
>sides would trust.
>
>–
>Joseph Franklyn McElroy
>Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> ok Daddy…

Yet another automatic, internal idiotic knee-jerk
cardboard cut out. This one is 'countercultural' though.
Revolutionary even.

When you don't see anything else to do, and you can't do what use to do…

Hank Williams Song..

"Why don't you love me like you used to do?"
"My hairs still curly and my eyes are still blue"

–
Joseph Franklyn McElroy
Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, marc.garrett wrote:

> Thanx - where's mummy?

So 'funny'. So 'witty'.

Thatcher's kid once said, fundraising for some thing, "It's time to pay up
for Mumsie." Indelible.


>From: "furtherfield" <info@furtherfield.org>
>To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>CC: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>,<list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The Hitler Project
>Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:59:09 +0100
>
>Don't spank me! Where's mummy…?
>
>
> > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:
> >
> > > ok Daddy…
> >
> > Yet another automatic, internal idiotic knee-jerk
> > cardboard cut out. This one is 'countercultural' though.
> > Revolutionary even.
> >
> >
> >




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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> Don't spank me! Where's mummy…?

Why should I? You're spanking yourself already.

In a message dated 26/09/2002 20:54:44 GMT Daylight Time,
joseph@electrichands.com writes:


> It would be really cool if some great charismatic leader showed up that both
> sides would trust.

max herman perhaps? :)

Well, people do a lot of real orgies these days; it took me a sec to figure
out this was a reference to ancient Roman orgies.

America is way better than Hitler by a mile though, regardless of who we've
been forced to do business with, right? Hitler outlawed everybody
practically, and was a low-life leader of savages.

I mean that we know, right?


>From: "furtherfield" <info@furtherfield.org>
>Reply-To: "furtherfield" <info@furtherfield.org>
>To: "Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]"
><joseph@electrichands.com>
>CC: "Max Herman" <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>, <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The Hitler Project
>Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:50:18 +0100
>
>It would be really cool if some great charismatic leader showed up that
>both
>sides would trust'
>
>Some chance - I know, I'm just not gonna bother worrying about the world
>today and go to an orgy tonight, let off some steam…
>
>marc
>
>
> > reQuoting furtherfield <info@furtherfield.org>:
> >
> > > We are getting duped by established orders who have no interest in
>human
> > > issues or human lives, they are mainly more interested in maintaining
>their
> > > elitist heritage at whatever cost
> >
> > I think that they are pursuing their own best interests (which they
>construe to
> > be the best interests of everyone except the designated scapegoat) and
>in
>doing
> > so are not paying attention to the costs to others outside their sphere
>of
> > protection and ignore/misunderstand the real long term ramifications of
>what
> > they do.
> >
> > Those of use opposed to their actions, are, at the end of the day,
>pursuing
> > what we think are our best interests (even if we self-sacrifice, we made
>a
> > decision that is best for us) and by extension, the best interests of
>the
> > people we care about (be it the whole world). From their viewpoint, we
>are
> > probably trying to dupe them into giving up on what they believe is the
>best
> > for the world and their family.
> >
> > So there you have it, a vast corporate/military power trying to protects
>its
> > world from a vast oil/religion power trying to expand its world (to
>protect it
> > from implosion) and a weak power of reason not rising to meet the
>challenge.
> >
> > If you want to have a chance at winning this war, you can't cripple
>either
>side
> > alone - you have to defeat them both… how are you going to do this?
>Neither
> > of the two militant powers are going to listen to reason, why should
>they,
>in
> > their view if they give in to reason the other militant power wins the
>game.
> > There is no trust on either side.
> >
> > I am afraid that the only solution is to kick both their asses, which
>opens up
> > a whole lot of problems of its own. Otherwise, try to bet on the winner
>and
> > wait.
> >
> > It would be really cool if some great charismatic leader showed up that
>both
> > sides would trust.
> >
> > –
> > Joseph Franklyn McElroy
> > Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist]T
> > Take the survey they are all talking about…
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Well, I think the rule is, it can't be a leader, and it can't be one person,
whatever the solution or improvement might be.

Death is korrect on that one. I think Pilgrim's Progress, and the entire
Everyman narrative, is about Death, for example "Seinfeld" and Chaucer.

I was also thinking of Wallace Stevens, who wrote "The only emperor is the
emperor of ice cream," and how ice cream is a technology-thing–i.e. you
gotta have ice-tech to make it. That's a sort of idiotic topic to mention,
but it relates to the idea of death–i.e., all our images and models will
die, but we're just alive for a bit, so we will experience turbulence
between the emperor and the ice cream, every man, i.e. contemplation of
death and loss of the ego or the "I". In Seinfeld, you see people acting
out their defects in a comic/cathartic way; Jerry is the hapless innocent
who goofs and gets into these tangles of wacky egos, all crashing about and
finally returning to the comic (still alive) stasis in which the all retain
their character, ready for more goofy ego-mutual vaporisation.

Unfortunately, in Socrates there are no poets allowed in the Republic,
because by definition poets are "mad" or "possessed" by that which they
perform–Homer generally–and are not therefore "free" or "rational;" the
poet is clutched in madness, sick, not fit to govern or even EXIST in the
ideal republic. Kinda reminds me of the Thing symposium about "are we alive
or are we dead" question.

So, it would be a "squaring" of "cogito ergo sum," if you will, in the same
way that Einstein squared Newton by saying "all mapped points are relative,
not identical. If you square "cogito ergo sum" you get "what I think and
model is not me; there is no me."

And that would be quite accurate.

My regards for saying "squaring," there might be a better way to put it like
"going up a dimension" or "up a power" or whatever.

Insoever kinship as may be,

Max Herman

++


>From: JonBeds@aol.com
>Reply-To: JonBeds@aol.com
>To: joseph@electrichands.com, list@rhizome.org
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: The Hitler Project
>Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:12:11 EDT
>
>In a message dated 26/09/2002 20:54:44 GMT Daylight Time,
>joseph@electrichands.com writes:
>
>
> > It would be really cool if some great charismatic leader showed up that
>both
> > sides would trust.
>
>max herman perhaps? :)




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On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> But you know how to hurt so much more than me, please - just like you do to
> everyone else.

As if that is an impossibility, dearest.
Certainly I do know more than you do. 'Everybody else' doesn't exist.
Nor have I made such claims.


> Be my master Daddy - tell me that everything I do is wrong,

What you do is neither wrong nor right–you're not even capable of that.
How does it taste?

> trivialize my existence,

Your existence is_ trivial, love.
And I_ am not the one trivializing it–you: are.


> put me down for just existing. Go on, its what you
> are good at…

Sorry but no–stating things you dislike hearing,
and not laudating humans unjustifiably is not 'putting anyone down'.

You wear the false mask–you want to be treated as a king,
when you are merely swine. There is nothing put down about it.
And you don't even take the way out of it–though I always leave
it there. It's your own responsibility.

Your pseudo-anarchistic pose is not even authentic.

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> Could you be a bit more Sadistic

No, dear, I am not Sadistic. Your deranged fantasies are exactly
+ precisely yours. Idiot.

> - You are a Daddy right! Cuz Daddies know everything.

You're a moron. Knowledge hasn't got anything to do with
your biological parents; male or female. Juvenile,
immature ape.

> Sufficate me Daddy, burn my emptiness, pull my heart out,

I am afraid you have problems with your father personally
that you need to resolve. What I do hasn't got anything
to do with your juvebile pseudo-anarchistic sexually
inept fantasies.

> kill my spirit,

Parents don't kill children's spirits.
Rather the opposite; a child, by biological necessity
murders a portion of the host-parents spirit at birth.

Typically, the mother is spiritually dead after 2nd or 3rd
child–if weak, after the first.

> paint your impressions on me, rape me - go on, you just love
> raping my soul,

Idiot. Keep your delusional projections to yourself.
No parents or 'daddy-figures' do that sort of thing.

> punching me with your all-knowing/all-seeing stink-fist.


Idiotic masochistic ape. Knowledge belongs to all
who have the courage to go for it. Genuine knowledge
hasn't got anything to do with the imbecilic,
sexually immature impulses you're exhibiting.
To make matters worse, idiots like yourself
fancy their self-destructive masochistic behavior
somebody else's fault + attempt to degrade
as many as they can along the path.


What you're doing is standard passive-aggressive pose,
by means of which masochists attempt to 'trap'
'active' masochists (sadists) into mutual destruction.

You're wasting your time, shithead.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

A 5:09 PM -0700 le 9/27/02, -IID42 Kandinskij @27+ a ecrit:

>On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:
>
> > kill my spirit,
>
> Parents don't kill children's spirits.
> Rather the opposite; a child, by biological necessity
> murders a portion of the host-parents spirit at birth.
>
> Typically, the mother is spiritually dead after 2nd or 3rd
> child–if weak, after the first.
>

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On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> What an asshole

The only one an asshole here is you.
Spare me your idiotic knee-jerk immature psychosexual
spasmodic war-fear-of-death jerk-off pose.

> - if you are a bot you should be unplugged,

Right. I should be murdered in order to stop War.
Come back when you've a modicum of intelligence, ape.

> you nihilist/loveless void.

I am neither nihilist, nor loveless, nor a void.
Your idiotic knee-jerk childish malformed-opinions
of the world are inapplicable.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, [iso-8859-1] eyescratch

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> Your the one sitting on the fence Daddy

I am not sitting on any fences, dearest.
Your idiotic 'knee-jerk' sloganish accusations are
sheer imbecilities.

> - where's your work,

Where it belongs, and that is not accountable to YOU, twit.
Secondly my work hasn't got anything to do with this conversation.
Go pull that dick-mwasuring contest attitude elsewhere.

> you fake.

Oh right. More juvenilia.
The only one fake here is you.
Immature ape.

http://www.eusocial.com/kode/!sz.mp3

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On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, [iso-8859-1] eyescratch

You are letting him get to you…why

on 9/28/02 8:36 AM, furtherfield at info@furtherfield.org wrote:

> What an asshole - if you are a bot you should be unplugged, you
> nihilist/loveless void.
>
>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:
>>
>>> Your the one sitting on the fence Daddy
>>
>> I am not sitting on any fences, dearest.
>> Your idiotic 'knee-jerk' sloganish accusations are
>> sheer imbecilities.
>>
>>> - where's your work,
>>
>> Where it belongs, and that is not accountable to YOU, twit.
>> Secondly my work hasn't got anything to do with this conversation.
>> Go pull that dick-mwasuring contest attitude elsewhere.
>>
>>> you fake.
>>
>> Oh right. More juvenilia.
>> The only one fake here is you.
>> Immature ape.
>>
>>
>>
>
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Kandinskij is NN?

Also, Napier, don't you think intentions are not the same as intent?
Intentions are what we think our intent is, but intent proper is more like
"what's really going on", right?

As in original motive energy vs. our explanations thereof based on
observation, which if distorted or inaccurate seem true but arent.

Krect?




>From: eyescratch

Who is eyescratch, and what is going on.




>From: eyescratch

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Lee Wells wrote:

> You are letting him get to you…why

And you are letting me get to you.. why.

Paranoid idiots.

I am not 'getting' to anyone.
You may wish to take responsibilities for yourselves,
or re-act from internal pre-sets.. and blame satan, corporations,
daddy, the hoola, the east, the west, bl abla.


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, furtherfield wrote:

> You are right Lee - From this second on, I will stop…

Oh!? Great!! You're a fascist.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Who is eyescratch, and what is going on.

Someone who attempted an idiotic 'mindfuck' trick or two.
And attempted to 'use' what I say 'against' NN.
So clever. Mindfuck, as well as USING other people
works only if one 'subscribes' to it, boys.
My subscription ran out years ago.

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:

> Kandinskij is NN?

No, I am not NN, have no desire to be NN, have never been NN,
nor will I ever be NN. Thanks, I like my Being just fine.
And I don't suffer from any delusional misunderstanding of
'All is one'. Whew.

> Also, Napier, don't you think intentions are not the same as intent?
> Intentions are what we think our intent is, but intent proper is more like
> "what's really going on", right?

Si.

> As in original motive energy

Hm.. maybe? Sounds there-about-ish. Imprecission comes from
understanding that most people are 'sent' this energy daily,
but they piss it away rather than spending it as it should be
spent–and even though this may sound a bit 'programmatic'
in reality it isn't, but it's not something that can be explained
word-wise. Not the way humans (don't) read these days anyways.

> vs. our explanations thereof based on observation,
> which if distorted or inaccurate seem true but arent.

> Krect?

Almozt. The faculty that is capable of objective observation
is not a physical sense. Physical senses themselves cannot
be really distorted–they're mechanical (though not robotic,
and not mechanical in a way machines are THOUGHT OF typically)
unless you break the instruments (often they are).

The distortions occur in the human (body).

I've been realizing that you can't choose just the g or the 2k, and so, to
tell the diff, you gotta lotta lotta hard work today.




>From: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>Reply-To: "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+" <death@zaphod.terminal.org>
>To: Max Herman <maxnmherman@hotmail.com>
>CC: <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME\_RAW: The Hitler Project
>Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Max Herman wrote:
>
> > Who is eyescratch, and what is going on.
>
>Someone who attempted an idiotic 'mindfuck' trick or two.
>And attempted to 'use' what I say 'against' NN.
>So clever. Mindfuck, as well as USING other people
>works only if one 'subscribes' to it, boys.
>My subscription ran out years ago.
>
>`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42
>
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