On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, + lo_y. + wrote:

> (
>
> i've been paying.attention

No, you haven't.
Paying attention is listening attentively,
in awareness, without condescension,
without pre-cut cardboard pre-conceptions,
with an empty + clean + clear mind
in healthy + good condition–something
that you lack.

> and i can.only.confirm
>
> that
>
> "-IID42 Kandinskij @27+"
>
> ==
>
> my.favorite.troll

Negativ.nein. Loy = troll.
Neither understanding what is being done, nor caring
it attempts to bully thru it's half-assedly sewn dress
of preconceptions over my head. NO, thank you.

> + don't try to enforce.
>
> another.opinion upon.me

+ nobody is enforcing 'opinions'
opinions are worthless mouth gestures

+ do not attempt 'inverted' enforcing of your OPINION
which is simply not TRUE

as have always said : not everybodi has a right to an opinion

opinionism = internet disease

ie, 'all opinions are worthy + everybodi has a right to have one + all
viewpointz equally valid populizt imbecile nonsense'

your so called opinion is merely an attempt at bullying a label

not even an opinion

do NOT label me

ciao


`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, + lo_y. + wrote:

>
> i've been paying.attention
>
> and i can.only.confirm

+ disconnection
& displacement of words from reality

=symptom of current diseases

+ responsibl for mass illiteracy & stupidity

you may insist + stomp your foot as much as you wish
that you have been listening, abr. you have not

listening is not 'automatic' + 'prejudiced'

you have simply re-akted comme 01 monkey
out of pre-sets + cultural programming
firmly ingrained in your mind

listening is an ability which is the essence
ov artistik talnt+must be cultivated
in 01 healthy body, heart + mind

absence of the abov. preculdes the existence
of said ability

abr. feel free to produce more parrot.noiz

xi xi
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Object as subject has been denigrated by social psychology by
anthropology, as contagion as participation mystique: the primitive mind,
via psychological projection, transfers its own subjective contents onto
the object – and then perceives those contents is transference as if
actual attributes of the object.

ie, 01 loy has 'observed' [himself as 01.troll] in D42 ? as evident
+ attempted to degrade itself

the characteristic ov 01 'sadist'

the sickness of the self-destructiv eye

multi-dimensional masochism in attempting to expand

ie, psychik 'vampire' + psychotikally ill == loy

Indeed, inability to distinguish between the subjective and object is
treated as the hallmark of primitive mind and some psychoses. Even
Buddhism negatively so regards, as this conflation of object and subject
is considered the root of all suffering: attachment.

oui oui: do not *attach' your lablz to me
self-destructiv sadist

i do not desire your touch

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, + lo_y. + wrote:

> At 06:05 18/08/02 -0700, -IID42
> http://faculty.washington.edu/vienna/wien_images/artwork/GAY622.GIF @27+ wrote:

er. freud wasn't all that good.

> > Negativ.nein. Loy = troll.
> > Neither understanding what is being done, nor caring
> > it attempts to bully thru it's half-assedly sewn dress
> > of preconceptions over my head. NO, thank you.
>
> ( delicieux )

to consume is not to say i consume

`, . ` `k a r e i' ? ' D42

loy.alice.writez:

> > ( delicieux )

'The body, monks, is not self. If the body were the self, this body
would not lend itself to dis-ease. It would be possible (to say) with
regard to the body, "Let my body be thus. Let my body not be thus."
But precisely because the body is not self, the body lends itself to
dis-ease. And it is not possible (to say) with regard to the body,
"Let my body be thus. Let my body not be thus."

'Feeling is not self…. Perception is not self…. Mental processes
are not self….

'Consciousness is not self. If consciousness were the self, this
consciousness would not lend itself to dis-ease. It would be possible
(to say) with regard to consciousness, "Let my consciousness be thus.
Let my consciousness not be thus." But precisely because
consciousness is not self, consciousness lends itself to dis-ease.
And it is not possible (to say) with regard to consciousness, "Let my
consciousness be thus. Let my consciousness not be thus."

'How do you construe thus, monks–Is the body constant or inconstant?'
'Inconstant, Lord.' 'And is that which is inconstant easeful or
stressful?' 'Stressful, Lord.' 'And is it fitting to regard what is
inconstant, stressful, subject to change as: "This is mine. This is
my self. This is what I am"?' 'No, Lord.'

'…Is feeling constant or inconstant?…. Is perception constant or
inconstant?…. Are mental processes constant or inconstant?….

'Is consciousness constant or inconstant?' 'Inconstant, Lord.' 'And
is that which is inconstant easeful or stressful?' 'Stressful, Lord.'
'And is it fitting to regard what is inconstant, stressful, subject to
change as: "This is mine. This is my self. This is what I am"?'
'No, Lord.'

'Thus, monks, any body whatsoever–past, future, or present; internal
or external; blatant or subtle, common or sublime, far or near: every
body–is to be seen as it actually is with right discernment as:
"This is not mine. This is not my self. This is not what I am."

'Any feeling whatsoever…. Any perception whatsoever…. Any mental
processes whatsoever….

'Any consciousness whatsoever–past, future, or present; internal or
external; blatant or subtle, common or sublime, far or near: every
consciousness–is to be seen as it actually is with right discernment
as: "This is not mine. This is not my self. This is not what I am."

'Seeing thus, the instructed Noble disciple grows disenchanted with
the body, disenchanted with feeling, disenchanted with perception,
disenchanted with mental processes, and disenchanted with
consciousness. Disenchanted, he becomes dispassionate. Through
dispassion, he is released. With release, there is the knowledge,
"Released." He discerns that, "Birth is depleted, the holy life
fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for this world."'

That is what the Blessed Onesaid. Glad at heart, the group of five
monks delighted at his words. And while this explanation was being
given, the hearts of the group of five monks, through no clinging (
without consuming), were released from the mental effluents.

!= allow 'consummation' + 'touch'
your 'delicieux' is as empty as all your other
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