In a message dated 5/23/2002 10:33:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
integer@www.god-emil.dk writes:


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> Trond Lossius <lossius@bek.no>
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> >This is kind of related to why auvi-objs sucks in my opinion: Auvi is
> >charging for objects that depends on another developer (nn) that depends
> on
> >another developer (C74).
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> NN isn't a developer Trond.
> NN may be a designer although NN is always a life form - and if life
> permits an
> exceptional life form.
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> When NN was a very exceptional high school student in Naples she played in
> toy theatres
> konstrukted by studying the scenery of Rome.

I went to high school here in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Was I exceptional?
Yes in that it was claimed that I never paid attention. O grimly born to
northern siege of state! I learned how to thinkvive, a term from a class of
words I'm advocating from Benjamin about survival etc. After a term of
thinkvival, then I began my extra-academic operations up in the the old
bonnet. By the end of high school I had determined to learn the entire canon
of every major western discipline–I'd already finished higher maths, so it
was on to reading (poetry), painting, architecture, poli-sci, you name it.
So for me, I think I compare to Shakespeare–was he an exceptional high
school student? Hell if I know. Everybody's different.


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> As for naming Cycling74 developer I point to you -> with a handful of
> laundry pins
> one doesn't need teeth.
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> >How manyy levels of dependency can you accept
> >before it starts getting problematic?
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> Trond does know does he not ___…
> Trond has sought + was gifted employment in a publicly powered institute.
> Trond has sought + was gifted marriage. Trond has sought + was gifted a
> child.
> Trond is sought + held together by other citizenz *
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> Please _for _me draw your dependency graph Trond.

I heard that Stephen Hawking is suing against Wolfram's book! Amazing times.


> For I long your desires to read - as the wind longs to play with 01nz hair.
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> >auvi obviuously has found a way to optimize performance.
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> Trond - when I sign my name I do so hoping to find a signature that has
> been lost.
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> optimizing performance synonymous isnt with speed of execution.
> http://www.macdonalds.com also isn't.

So in fact I am correct that there is a marketing problem almost beyond
belief or comprehension of risk, or something. It's tantamount to an
aesthetic upheaval that I can only describe as the Genius 2000 Network. I
personally would be glad if McDonald's switched to falafel, for biopollution
reasons.



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> I like dusting the typically xy citizen m9nd [nothing to be ashamed of
> really]
> - optimizing speed of execution is rather a painful thus sequential simple
> matter.
> And remember a body like a factory is.
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> It begins with compiler settings. NN laughs.
> It begins with language. NN laughs.
> It begins with 0+0 imagination. NN laughs.
> It begins with discarding selekt processes [= 0+0 data]. NN welds together
> her small pointy teeth.




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> Unlike those who pack understanding with ugly things, am not going to
> vulgarize Auvi
> either by doing that that Auvi did/does nor allowing those
> professional expensive but affordable mercenaries [NN vomits upon launching
> MAX]
> slicing NATO.0+55 2 shreds [the 2nd murder]
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> Why +? Because I understand.
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> Not as Trond may understand. Not as the unfortunates at Cycling74
> understand.
> Not as the spineless Rokeby understands (truth is the easiest thing to
> remember David - remember this a life time).
> Not as the strawberry sweet NATO.0+55 operators at art-engine canada
> understand
> Not as the dusty NATO.0+55 operators at Ircam understand. Not as the
> NATO.0+55 operators at ZKM understand.
> Not as the NATO.0+55 operators at Bek.no understand. and on and on said
> freedom.
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> I understand that you are weak and your boundaries are weak.
> Or rather not weak but …. (one must keep silent about that which cannot
> be spoken of

Not necessarily. What if you invent a new way of talking? I have to think
that's the major variable of any purpose to this list. That and Moby, I
heard that Eminem disses Moby on his new album. What is up with Moby?


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> >Why not make one
> >object, open-source it, and drink some coffe while the rest of us throws
> >together an additional 109 objects that auvi could enjoy for free?
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> Trond - open source a good thing isnt */

This is a fairly nihilistic attitude, but I'd be interested to hear what
others think. One often hears open source discussed as analogous to freedom
per se; what are the downsides to open source? I'm thinking it's a bell
curve maybe.


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> This is.
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> when 01 [possibly you] loses 01nz sense of depth perception
> when 01 sees more things than 01 can touch
> when 01nz clock suffers an identity crisis + confuses the
> coordinates
> + direktion of time _ klose things overlap with far away
> things.
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> Life me some!!
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> even if `FREE` I lv++ the fogginess + heat.
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> Remember - I like Paris space. But my home elsewhere is found.
> Bring light to future as thread to scraps.
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> >The max community
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> Furtive glance at the terribly dressed mafiosi.
> I see the People as I see God.
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> http://www.m9ndfukc.org/mcgill-lizt_ounr
> http://www.m9ndfukc.org/cycling74
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> Weak. corrupt. filthy … yet how amazing - one. each + single one without
> exception
> wears an aviator's helmet at night.
>
> Amazing it isn't. An illness it is.
> The wish to be loved.

It seems to me that this holds fairly true vis-a-vis primate stress-endocrine
(drangendokrizie) neurobiology, and zen buddhism. Also to Genius 2000. The
wish is secondary.


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> >for a long while has been willing to share with each
> >other, as the ircam.ftp site proves.
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> Trond, Ircam has an annual war budget of millions.
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> Ircam doesn't teach Trond. Ircam extinguishes the happiness of form and
> suffocates the shape of ecstasy with theoretical frame workx - 47 mil.
> years after the fakt.
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> NN once upon a time admired Ircam [and many others]. That is before NN
> understood.
> When NN understood NN threw Ircam [and many others] in the cheap trash.

I don't see anything illegal or immoral about doing that, right off.


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> NN walked away disillusioned … and then +? then NN walked and walked
> until she came
> to an intersektie.
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> H L F
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> S
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> Ircam and ZKM have started video multimedia projekts for reasons
> congruent
> with BEk.no.z
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> Ircam and ZKM and Bek.no video multimedia projekts -> throw in cheap
> trash.
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> NN smiles at trash full of tools. Tools for workers. Free tools …
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> Ircam has an annual war budget.
> Ircam doesn't teach Trond. It feeds the needY.
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> NN takes from the needY + gives to the r!ch.
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> >If enough max externals developers
> >starts charging for objects,
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> Trond - MAX is dead.
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> Nato.0+55 was the only good thing that happened to Max in over a dekade.
> It has always been present. But … it is lovers who find when found by
> language not workers
> - Trond `knows` 2 reasons
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> Trond is a lovely person.
> NN thought - mmm. an angel.
> NN no longer thinks so for Trond is scared of darkness
> but NN thinks still Trond is a very.very.lovely person in day light.
> and NN wishes to take Trond into 01 `Steim has a beautiful garden`
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> NN once upon a time admired Miller Puckette. NN no longer does.
> She admires the beautiful Steim garden. One day she will teach him its
> paths.
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Is it fair to say that in the behind-the-scenes world of art criticism, the
Vasulkas don't care for NN and vice versa? Why would that be? Chris? What
about other blue-chip artists like Nam June Paik and Bill Viola, or more to
the point, Yoko Ono? Is there an analog vs. digital schism or something?


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> >it might slow down development and make it
> >difficult to share max patches with eachother.
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> NN has liberated rt video from the diktatorship of orthogonality
> from the obligation of pertinence. from the duty of moderation.
> from the slavery of form follows function
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> a nn d
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> NN broke the dogma of ethical aesthetics by
> destroying the boundaries which hold the self prisoner - lovers are always
> together.
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> Permit 01 2 konfuse 01 (possibly you) [konfusie = sekx.+e
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> Their flight serves not to escape but to produce life.
> It breaks no limits. They fly to reach FREE SPACE - A PRIVATE DOMAIN -
> where they can live happily.
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> >Me for one
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> It is thus they avoid the fate of Icarus.
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> >would consider
> >moving on to e.g. pd or jMax.
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> Wouldn't you rather immune.play [tm] Trond +?
> After all, have you noticed … no one can stop `me`*
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> >Just a few cents.
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> Have a diamond.
> And have two.
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> As I am on my way to Paris. for no particular reason mind you.
> I wave bye bye.
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> NN
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