In a message dated 7/28/2002 12:41:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
blackhawk@thing.net writes:
> Dear List,
>
> Bobbi's losing it… big time. re:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/21/arts/design/21SMIT.html?pagewanted=pr=
int&
> position=top
>
Thanks for backing me up BH, sometimes it seems I'm the only person with
courage out here. Not any more!
> > Painting remains the expression of an exceedingly human need for mark
> > making — a basic urge to communicate like speech, writing and s=
ong. If
> > this weren't the case, the century would not have had so many
> > self-taught painters, some of them geniuses. Paintings can have the
> > expressive density of written pages, and new ones are being made all
> > the time that make exceptionally good reading.
>
> This is complete & total rubbish. Speech is "basic", artifice is
> "basic", writing is not, singing is not (tho chanting may be), &
> mark-making was a thing given to one in a hundred (even now, despite the
> transient ubiquity of Photoshop & al) – this since neolithic times; the
> province of the shaman. The rest of her argument is specious to the
> point of teleological absurdity.
Yes, province of the shaman, priest, and anointed genius. Notice how RS us=
es
the word "geniuses" to invoke the sacred artist? That is the reason I did=
gkk in the first original place–I knew it would come in quite handy.
>
> & once again, elsewhere in the article, she demonstrates her
> pathological inability to perceive work framed by the monitor. Her
> catch-all for everything which isn't painting seems to be "video" which
> she characterizes as "the successor to installation".
I'd say "financial obligation to downgrade art made sans le paint." Which =
is
what it is; she is compelled by her history, her 2000, to think as she does=
.
This does not contradict your assertion that she is totally schizoid and
bizarre, like say Lamarck.
>
> Roberta, please… the rocking chair beckons.
For a military man BH you seem very content to let nature take its course.=
In my opinion, power doesn't just fade away. It is confronted and
neutralized just like in chess. Like P. Diddy, RS ain't goin' nowhere till=
someone downpack bares some teeth, bristles up, and makes her eat second or=
third. Not to mention mating privileges….
>
> best,
>
> Blackhawk.
Max Herman
genius2000.net
nextroute.com PINE concert
Sunday pm
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 1:03:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
sondheim@PANIX.COM writes:
> Actually, it's not clear that speech is 'basic' - there are inscribed
> pebbles from Aurignacian times. It would also be difficult to
> differentiate between singing and chanting in terms of brain function. And
> we're talking paleolithic, not neolithic.
>
> Alan
>
Yes, AS, I agree that the best way to pop Roberta is not to dispute her
claims of "basicness", which are like a hot facial fart i.e. utter wind
signifying nada.
The best way is to make her look bad i.e. satire and ridicule. This is a
matter of conscience and chops.
I love Alan,
Max Herman
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