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As to Adorno: he seems to be having a renaissance right now (a lot of
academics, state side, seem to be talking about him again and there seem to=

be a lot of new publications of his work). I love his book on Alban Berg. A=
t
one point he does talk about a physicalness in the music (it's been a while=

since I read it, I'll have to take a look again. Thanks for the reminder).=


One note: I was actually talking about seeing Ives in the paintings of Neo=

Rauch, a contemporary german painter, not of Old man Rauchenberg (although =
I
like the connotations, especially with his box paintings). Also while your=

right about my "seeing" Xenakis, I was talking about the beauty of his
written compositions (I think many hand written scores, in general, are som=
e
of the most beautiful drawings around…).

Nice ideas. What else you got?

Re: Music and Art

by stashcrow, 07.18.02 11:17 am

One more: To be honest, I've not got much more than 5 minutes into
Stockhausen's Helicopter suite. Just the experience of looking at the CD,=

with Irivne Arditi in the cockpit of a helicopter, and his little 'fro poki=
ng
out from the headphones and his grin and violin in hand…then pushing play=
,
only to hear the engines slowly whirring up to speed, was enough to set me=

guffawing. I'll check out the piece you recommended (I really like his shor=
t
piano works with his "breaths" and "Hups" and "haws"). How about Schwitter'=
s
"Ur sonata'. Love it (especially while looking at the sequence of photos of=

his facial expressions while performing the piece).

Re: Music and Art

by stashcrow, 07.18.02 11:26 am

Ohh ya, and as to the question of painting and music be in a ghetto of sort=
s:
Well most of the greatest culture comes out of the ghettos (I know that's n=
ot
quite what you meant…). People will always gripe about how old and weary=

painting is and how easy it is to laud. I say: "the King is dead? Long live=

the King!"

Re: Music and Art

by rinaldo, 07.18.02 08:06 pm

Once again we may verify that ignorance is quite daring (oh my what a shame=

this is embarrassing) I didnaE