Re: art is scam (was: <nettime> "China:Imitation Nation"-Salon)

Sounds like you're pushing G2K now fella/ma'am, soe'er ye wist.

And I already proved it, so get with the friggy program.

Max Herman
genius2000.net

ref. url: http://www.econ.utah.edu/fowles/vital.htm




In a message dated 7/14/2002 8:20:14 AM Central Daylight Time,
morlockelloi@yahoo.com writes:


> Subj:art is scam (was: <nettime> "China:Imitation Nation"-Salon)
> Date:7/14/2002 8:20:14 AM Central Daylight Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:morlockelloi@yahoo.com">morlockelloi@yahoo.com</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:nettime-l@bbs.thing.net">nettime-l@bbs.thing.net</A>
> Sent from the Internet
>
>
>
> > People who are holding on to that "anachronistic" copyright mentality
> > (owning ideas as if they can be owned personally) is wishful
> > thinking, ignorant and those people might as well starve. but no one
> > HAS TO hold on. Everybody else, who sheds this old school stuff will
> > just move on, do whatever they think of. It's not like anyone either
> > depends on money from residuals or never sees a cent again.
>
> The obvious separation of rich and powerful from artists (do you know rich
> and
> powerful starving artist ?) makes me think that art is just a surogate for
> being rich and powerful. If you can't have minions, harems, servants and
> hired
> guns, try to make others notice you by creating attractive pieces of
> information and attaching your name to it. Instead of being honestly and
> obviously powerful, you sneak into people's minds by using lures and dirty
> tricks. Disgusting.
>
> It is no wonder that artists hate when public just consumes lures without
> paying. Tough shit.
>
>
> > But as an alternative, the general public will NEED art. The people
> > who fulfill that need we can call "artists". Nobody IS fundamentally
> > an artist. But if the publics' needs are being fulfilled, folks will
> > have to bite the bullet and start paying for it.
>
> Well, maybe they don't.
>
> Maybe there is no inherent need for art anymore than inherent need for the
> Big
> Mac. Art scam is just older so one can dig out many examples to prop up the
> theory that there is "need", while there were no Big Macs 100 years ago.
>
> As religion has been parasiting on peasants for several millenia, artists
> have
> been parasiting on unsuspecting public for many times more. Recent
> consolidation in the last few centuries is a natural process, not an
> aberration. MPAA, MGM and others are rightful descendandts of cave wall
> painters.
>
> Boycott art and let the fucking starvers starve already. It will be easier
> than
> weaning from religion.
>
>
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Max Herman July 15 2002 01:00Reply

In a message dated 7/14/2002 8:20:14 AM Central Daylight Time,
morlockelloi@yahoo.com writes:


> As religion has been parasiting on peasants for several millenia, artists
> have
> been parasiting on unsuspecting public for many times more.

Art=Religion? Proving they need G2K math badly. Why is every even
moderately bold idea in man always a tributary of Genius 2000?

Because that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Mach Airman
genius2000.net
artforum.com

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